Journal Institution of Locomotive Engineers
Volume 40 (1950)

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Journal No. 213

Kreissig (Paper No. 490)
The design of light-weight rolling stock. 4-49. Disc. 49-91. Bibliography. 46 diagrams.
Author was Chief Engineer Uerdingen und Dusseldorg Carriage Companies. Discussion: W.A. Agnew (50-1);
Stanier (51) took exception to Mr. Agnew's references to the resistance of past C.M.E.s to the introduction of steel passenger stock. He personally had been responsible for the construction of light-weight steel stock in about 1936, and as Mr. Agnew might know, the new Liverpool and Southport stock had saved a considerable amount of weight. He felt bound to say he had been inspired very largely by a statement made by the late Mr. Fairburn, who had claimed that for every ton which Sir William might save on the coach he (Mr. Fairburn) could save ten pounds a year on current.
An effort had been made at Derby to enable them to use light steel sections and all-steel skin stressed construction, but he thought Mr. Agnew had overlooked the fact that the operating department always demanded the type of compartment construction with doors all along the side, and that was a very great handicap to stressed skin construction. If they could have rolling stock such as they had on the tube railways it would be easy, but to design stressed skin stock for ordinary main lines was a problem.
At the same time he was full in agreement with Herr Kreissig when he advocated the reduction of weight in their stock. He did not think they had made sufficient study of the springing of lightweight vehicles, and he was quite sure that it meant very careful analysis of the movements that would take place and the power that was to be transmitted to get the correct springing to put it right, but he certainly did not think it was impossible. About three years previously he had been in Switzerland and had seen some of the new bogies that they were using on their electric locomotives. He had never experienced such good riding over such a curving road and at the speed at which they could take the curves. The bogie was an entirely unconventional type: it had no horn cheeks, it had radius bars and torsion bar control and coil springs on each side of the axlebox, with oil dampers, and it gave the most excellent riding.
Another point in the Author's Paper in which he had been very interested was the reference to the damage to the life of the springs if there was the slightest mark on the surface. One of the big problems facing the railways was how to prevent corrosion between the leaves of a spring. On the old L.M.S. line they had conducted many experiments in using spring leaves that were ground and polished, but after they had been out for a month or so they were corroded between the leaves and were just as bad. He did not know whether the Author could suggest any means of preventing that corrosion from getting in between the leaves. Coil springs, again, had a very much longer life if one could use polished bar and prevent any damage to the surface. On all high-grade motor cars and on many other vehicles, very great pains were taken to get very highly polished springs for both petrol engines and diesel engines, and he thought one of their biggest headaches in running rolling stock would be removed if they could get a much longer life out of their springs.
He did not know whether Herr Kreissig was familiar with the Paper for which he personally had been responsible in 1939, on “ Light-Weight Passenger Stock,” which was a description of a design which had been got out by the L.M.S., largely for the new stock of the Liverpol and Southport line. There they had adopted light pressed centre girders and used very light pressed sections, and they had reduced the weight on the trailer cars by eight or nine tons and on the motor cars by somewhere about seven tons, but they had not gone to the refinements that Herr Kreissig had shown in his Paper, of hollow axles and very nice, light wheels. Concluding his remarks, Sir William expressed his appreciation of Herr Kreissig’s visit to this country and the trouble to which he had been in presenting such a valuable Paper.
Mr. W. S. Graff -Baker (Past-President; W.S. Graf-Baker (52-4) noted stressed skin construction used by London Transport, even on the wooden bodies used on the District Lines. Stanier noted that it is not easy to design tube carriages because the doorways had to be wide leading to shear stresses and fatigue. E.S. Cox (54-5) noted problems of corrosion and for end loading quoted the Fairburn formula. Added that the passenger capacity and axle load of the original Southport stock was almost excatly same as then recent stock. T.H. Turner (55-6) noted problems of corrosion; L. Lynes (57-8) noted that light alloys are expensive and also commented on the design of wheel centres; Keith Hitchens (58-9) questionned the life expectancy of lightweight rolling stock. J. Koffman (written 59-65); R. St J. Preston and W.H.J. Vernon (written 65-6); R.S. Hall (83-4); G.C. Jackson (84) noted that considerable rouble had been experienced with all-welded bogies; A. Bonnères (85) recorded buckling headstocks; J.F. Thring (85) noted excessive vibration; W.F. Allen (85-6) noted corrosion; H.S. Stubbs (86) spoke about light alloys..

Birmingham 15 December 1949: E.R. Durnford (79-80); V.F. Dittrich (80-4): corrosion of steel Pullman cars and stressed importance of rust-proofing; J.W. Eling Smith (82); S.H. Morris (82); H. Lawton (written 82); P.K. Dewhurst (82-3)

Nock, O.S. (Paper No. 491)
The relationship between signalling and brake power in handling modern traffic. Joint Meeting with Institution of Railway Signal Engineers. Numbered separately.xvii pp.
R. Steadman (95-6) disputed Nock's claim that 80 mph was rarely exceeded on Coronation between York and Darlington.

Journal 214

Cook, K.J. (Paper No.492)
The late G.J. Churchward's locomotive development on the Great Western Railway. 131-71. Disc.: 171-210. + folding plate. 33 illus., 20 diagrs., 4 tables. .
Paper presented at Institution of Macanical Egineers following Thirty Ninth Annual General Meeting on 22 March 1950: the meeting was chaired by W. Cyril Willams . This is the most complete professional source of assembled data on Churchward design. It begins by emphasising that Churchward took over from Dean some excellent locomotives, notably the 80 singles, the standard goods 0-6-0 (especially the most recent 200), and the several 4-4-0 classes and Aberdare 2-6-0s which continued to be constructed under Churchward. The evolution of the standard classes is examined closely. The initial six envisaged in 1903 consisted of the 2-8-0 No. 97;  the 4-6-0 No. 98 (the Dean/Churchward 4-6-0 No. 100) is regarded as a protype for this) and the 2-6-2T No. 99, and should have included a 4-6-0 with 5ft 8in driving wheels, but this did not materialise under Churchward. A 4-4-0 (No. 3473) emerged in 1904 and a 4-4-2T (No. 2221) in 1905. All had 18x30in cylinders and 8½ in piston valves. It was originally envisaged that there would be 9ft and 8ft long fireboxes, but the tank engines demanded two smaller fireboxes.
No. 98 incorporated features of American design, notably the cylinders cast in two halves and joined by a cast saddle. This demanded a separate front end which was joined to the normal plate frames at the rear. The boilers featured a tapering barrel, but initially this was restricted to the rear plate. On 4-6-0 No. 171 Albion the boiler pressure was increased to 225 psi. Cook is not very revealing on the purchase of the De Glehn compound 4-4-2s: he described their general dimensions (with the usual absurd Imperial units) and stated how they were tested against No, 171 Albion as converted to a 4-4-2 and that this led to Churchward designing his four-cylinder simples..
In the discussion W.A. Stanier presented some anecdotal material (pp. 171-2) including his observations on Churchward's County class.Stanier said that it was with particular pleasure that he had come to the present meeting to hear a Vice-President, Mr. Cook, tell them something of the work with which he himself had been mixed up to a certain extent during its early history. . Mr. Churchward had come to Swindon the year of his own birth. He had then been Carriage Works Manager and was actively engaged in developing new things. He had developed the Great Western axle box, which was recognized as being one of the axle boxes most free from failure. They had heard about a number of people who had been associated w,lth Churchward but one of the principal people who had worked with him was George Burrows—his son was present at the meeting. He himself, having been in the drawing office at the time, had seen some of his work.
He could, of course; speak at great length about Mr. Churchward, but would confine himself to referring to one or two points only. Mr. Cook had drawn attention to the 4-4-0 "County" class engine. Churchward had built that engine with his tongue in his cheek. He knew the front end was too powerful for the wheel base. This engine was built for working trains on the Shrewsbury and Hereford line, which was a joint line with the L. & N.W., and the L. & N.W. objected at that time to the 4-6-0 "Saint" class working over it. He was not going to be told what he could do by Webb! Therefore Churchward built the "County" which had plenty of power to run the service.
Another matter he wished to speak about was the advent of the French erigine; Churchward had always been very' keen on spotting things that were good. The French engine had an extraordinarily good bogie and almost from the time the French engine. started running until the present time the Great Western bogie had the French spring control on it, as also had a great many L.M.S. bogies. Then there was also the big end for the inside cylinders The big end on the King, Castle, and Coronation" classes, and on a number of other 4-cylinder engines, had a French big end for the inside cylinder. He would like to tell the meeting something of the" old man." After the first world war a deputation had visited Churchward to tell him of their wishes. Churchward had rather an autocratic way and used to tell his people what to do. The leader of the deputation, the district organiser, said, "You know, the time has come when we wish to be asked to do a thing and not ordered to do it." "D- it all, it is time the' old man' retired," he replied. When Churchward retired the workers insisted on making him a presentation. They asked him what he wanted and intimated that he wanted nothing, and on being pressed he said, "A fishing rod." So he was presented with one and at his request the rest of the amount given was devoted to prizes for apprentices who attended the technical college. At the presentation the Chairman of the Works Committee, having spoken in glowing terms of how they admired Churchward, wound up his remarks by saying that he hoped every hair on his head would be a candlelight to glory. Churchward replied, "Well, there will not be many of them." He was as bald as a coot. . . As members probably knew,he himself had served his time under Dean but had worked a11 his active life until 1932 under Churchward. He had a great regard and affection for his memory. As Mr. Cook had said,'" His soul goes marching on" That was true because all his engines, which are still of the most modern type, were built before 1910. Those who had come after Churchward had tried to follow in his steps ever since.
H. Holcroft (pp. 173-82) added a considerable amount of extra detail.
R.C. Bond (182-4) examined the influence of Swindon policy on the design of the Royal Scot class, but "It was not until Sir William Stanier introduced on the locomotives he designed as Chief Mechanical Engineer of the L.M.S., the Swindon boiler in all its essentials, that the full benefits of Churchward's work was felt. The maintenance record of all Stanier's boilers has been outstanding and he would be the first to acknowledge their design as fundamentally based on Churchward's earlier work. He felt satisfied from his experience with the original Royal Scot and 5X 4-6-0 boilers, and those with which these engines have subsequently been fitted, that the shape of the firebox and design of the water spaces are primarily responsible for their high performance and the long life of the firebox plates. . As a matter of interest he had looked up the Paper on "Large Locomotive Boilers" read to the Institution of Mechanical Engineers by Churchward in 1906. Therein Churchward states that in his standard boilers provision for adequate circulation to the water spaces, and also upwards between the tubes at the firebox tube plate, had been made by leaving space between the tubes and barrel from top to bottom of a sectional area equal to the combined area of the vertical spaces between the tubes at all points, with a balance to ensure adequate feed to the water spaces of the firebox. Freedom from plate wastage and tube and stay trouble was thus ensured.
It seemed clear from Mr. Cook's Paper that a guiding principle followed by Churchward is the old maxim that "If it. is not necessary to alter a thing, it is necessary not to alter it." Features of design roved sound in practice were left 'alone and have remained unaltered for many years.
W.F. McDermid (184) noted the difficulty of keeping steam pipes tight with high degree superheating;

O.S. Nock (written 184-5); H.M. Le Fleming (written 185)

Manchester 31 March 1950: Fifth Ordinary General Meeting of the Manchester Centre was held at the College of Technology on Friday 31 March 1950 at 6.30 p.m., the Chair being taken by Mr. G.C. Marsh.
Discussion: The Chairman said they were greatly indebted to the Author for such an interesting Paper. He had listened to the Paper himself with particular pleasure, as he happened to be a West Country man, and in consequence had always had a great admiration for all things Great Western from his earliest days. The Author had referred to the Church ward vacuum brake system running at 25-in. vacuum, and also to the working of long fitted goods trains with locomotives of the 2-8-0 class. He thought that the Author mentioned trains of 70 wagons. At what vacuum would such trains be run? The Author replied to the Chairman that Great Western vacuum- fitted freight trains operated at the standard 25 ins., but it was not their practice for the tram to be braked throughout. It was laid down that one-third of the vehicles must be completely vacuum-fitted and marshalled at the front of the train. Concerning superheater flues, these were screwed into the firebox tubeplates, '11 threads per inch, expanded and beaded. He could not say definitely that this practice obtained from the first superheated boiler, but certainly very early in the development of superheating.
I.C. Forsyth (187) said that the main thing that struck him about that review of Churchward was the great influence that was brought to bear on the design of L.M.S. engines by Mr. Stanier's transfer from the Western to the L.M. Region, and in listening to a review of that sort, it was almost like listening to a review of the introductions on the L.M.S. from Sir William Stanier's arrival. Wider bearings for axle boxes and such things were obvious things to them at the present time. The top feed which had been mentioned they accepted as quite the normal way of putting the water into the boiler. They had not quite agreed upon the superheating, because they went in for a greater degree of super- heat and higher temperatures. But the thing that had impressed him most was that whilst the dates were 1903, 1910, 1895, when they looked at the photographs they looked at engines they saw at the present time, with very little difference. They were greatly indebted to the Author for giving them that survey, and he knew that everyone who listened to that talk would appreciate his review very much. He would like to ask the Author how the large smoke tubes were secured in the firebox tubeplate in the Churchward era.
J.J. Finlayson (188) observed how :the Great Western had been the first railway to develop taper barrel boilers and later taper fireboxes. These boxes appeared to become more and more tapered in their length, which in turn caused varying curves on the firebox side, which must have resulted in more difficult boiler making. Churchward was presumably making a very scientifically designed boiler to encourage heat transfer from the fire and quicker water circulation, but on the other hand this appears to necessitate difficult boiler plating. In asking the question from Great Western men as to how they got on with steel stays, he had always been informed that on the Great Western Railway there had never been any trouble with broken steel stays. This is not true of boilers on other railways. Would he be correct in saying that Churchward had succeeded in making a boiler which. from a practical boilermaker's point of view was a difficult thing to make but that the resultant article was scientifically designed from a water circulation and heat transference point of view? Would it also be correct to say that in designing various curvatures of the wrapper plate sides he had succeeded in making a boiler in which steel stays gave no trouble in service?;
Replying to Mr. Finlayson, Mr. Cook said that the development of the tapering boiler and firebox plates did appear to be much more exacting than parallel boilers, but if the project were tackled the diffi- culties could be smoothed out. He did not think they would ever claim that they experienced no breakage of steel stays, but they would clairr. very definitely that the general results were extremely satisfactory. He Would put that down mainly to the development of the curvature of the side plates. Churchward spent a lot of,time in developing these curves. There were several contributory details. In the design of his boiler, particularly the second boiler (on engine No. 171), he narrowed the back. end and increased the throat, and he was particularly keen in providing an area which would enable a very free flow of the relatively colder water into the firebox waterways. There were cases where different waters would affect steel stays differently, but on the whole the results had been excellent. In 1941, he, the Author, had taken a standard 8 boiler off a "Castle" class which was built in 1934. It had run 414,000 miles, and all the original steel stays were intact. The followrng year, he had taken a standard 12 ("King" class at 250 lb. pressure) off after 441,000 miles. When they had built their ubiquitous 0-6-0 tank (57xx class), of which they had nearly 1,000, they had increased the. pressure of the relatively straight-sided boiler from 180 to 200 Ib., and in certain cases they had encountered trouble with the steel stays. It had been necessary to increase the sweep of the side plates.
D. Patrick (188) commented on the statement which had been made about the freedom from failure of firebox stays. In comparison with the practice on other railways, the stays :were of relatively small diameter, but there was another point which occurred to him which was connected with the feed system. He believed that the Great Western Railway were the pioneers of the Top Feed system and they employed a somewhat elaborate system of feed trays which might possibly be the secret of success for Top Feed. In modem times on many railways abroad, in particular, they found locomotives with a Top Feed system in which the water entered the boiler through a twin nozzle or sometimes a pipe, without trays. There was nothing to show that such a system was in any way superior, to side clackboxes from a maintenance point of view on the boiler. He would like to ask the Author whether he con- sidered that the employment of the Churchward Top Feed Tray system was a contributory factor in the freedom from stay leakage obtained.
It also appeared to him to be worthy of note that the Great Western many years ago were using a boiler pressure very much higher than any contemporary railway outside the U.S.A.
The final comment he would make was on the continued faithfulness to inside valve gear. He believed there were now some Great Western engines with outside Walschaerts valve gear, but there were a great many engines having various forms of Stephenson or Walschaerts inside valve gear. Was that system maintained for the appearance and finish of the locomotive, in neglect of the fact that accessibilily must be somewhat difficult for lubrication and inspection, particularly on the tank engines?
!n reply Mr. Cook said that the top feed trays provided a very interesting subject. Since reading the Paper in London, he had had a commumcation which had opened up to him. rather a new viewpoint, and Mr. Patnck had touched on it very strongly. There probably was a great deal in the contribution of the top feed tray towards the general condition of the boiler, It might give a clue to the reasons why they had obtained, such excellent results without complete water treatment. The chemists view generally was that softening must be pursued to reduce hardness to zero or not introduced at all. He could not help recalling the results they had obtained just before the war [WW2] when they got extraordinary boiler lives. In those days shed mamtenance. was, of .course, at its best, but it might be that diffusion and the partial softening effect of heating and splitting up the feed water in the tray was a very valuable factor in the subject of water treatment.

It was correct that Churchward went higher than most people in boiler pressure. Some people thought he went too high: Mr. Cook, however, thought Churchward had a very good reason. It could be argued that from the economical viewpoint there was no value in a hlgher pressure than 180 lb., but the great virtue of a steam locomotive was its flexlblhty and the availabIhty of extra power at a slight sacrifice of theoretical efficiency provided true economy in the railway sense.
He would say that the inside valve gear was for two purposes.
One was the fact that Mr. Churchward preferred to keep his outside as plain as possible, but in referring to inside valve gear on Great Western engines, the term must be regarded generally as synonymous with Stephenson gear. It was quite fallacious to assume that valve events of Stephenson gear must be inferior to those of Walschaert gear. The Stephenson gear between the frames on that line gave really good valve events, and they would say that they stood by it on its merits rather than on any particular aesthetic value or the fact that it was tucked away. He had written a short article in the Railway Gazette some years ago m which he had pointed out that the "Hall" class valve gear had only one piece of its gear marked off. This was a check marking of the bore of the twin eccentric sheaves, and all the rest was produced entirely in jigs. He would also refer to the 2900 class engine which was fitted with poppet valves, the results of which were inferior to those of the Stephenson gear.
E.G. Smith (188) asked whether it was the Author's experience that inside valve liners wear far less than outside valve liners on the 4-cylinder engine. He had found it so on the L.M. Region. Replying to Mr. Smith, Mr. Cook said that on ·the matter of the wear of steam chest liners, there was not much difference between inside and outside, but he considered that on the whole wear was greater on the inside liners.
Metcalfe (189) asked if much scale was deposited in the trays. Also, what general type of water did they get on the Great Western, and how did the hardness of the water affect the deposit of scale? There were many different types of clackboxes, some of which appeared to cause some trouble in sticking open when the injectors were shut off. Some companies employed a ball in a cage, others had different designs of valves. He asked what was used on the Great Western. In reply . Cook said. was correct that a good deal of scale-forming matter was deposited in the trays, and that was one of the objects of the tray. The water on the Western Region varied considerably. In a number of cases where trouble had occurred, they had gradually changed the source and obtained wherever possible an improved type of water, but It vaned very considerably, and perhaps on certain routes they benefited from different waters blending with each other. Originally the clacks were ball valves, but in recent years they had been superseded by a double faced shuttle valve mounted in a cage as a renewable unit.
K.R.M. Cameron (189) said that it was regrettable that the locomotive world had for too long been kept somewhat in the dark as to details of locomotive design during the past fifty years on the Great Western Railway, and it was refreshing to see this evening that Mr. Churchward's designs had been so distinctive and yet so up to date even by present-day standards. He could support Mr. Forsyth when he had remarked that some of the drawings they had seen this evening could have their dates changed to 1938, and to all intents and purposes they would be looking at modem drawings. There was no doubt that Mr. Churchward had developed certain ideas along lines different from anybody else, but there was not the slightest doubt that these ideas had proved to be outstandingly successful.
He had always wondered why the G.W.R. did not see eye-to-eye with the other railways on the subject of mechanical lubrication to axle-boxes. Was it a fact that all the axlebox lubrication even. on the biggest and fastest engines, was entirely by trimming feed, or were there any classes fitted with mechanical lubricators? If trimming feed was the rule, were they prone to have hot boxes, or did they enjoy comparative immunity from this trouble?
He had also noticed in a number of the photographs of the smaller wheeled classes of engines, that the centre line of the cylinders did not appear to pass through the centre of the 'driving wheel but was an appreciable amount above it. Was this a general practice, and did it lead to rough riding?

Replying Cook said that there were no engines of Great Western design running with mechanical lubricatIon to axle-boxes. Great Western axleboxes were fitted with trimming feeds from oil boxes on the frame or above it with four feeds, two through spigots to allow for the movement of the axlebox to feed into the two oil holes at 45° each side of the centre of the crown and the two other oil feeds through the horn block to lubricate the faces. That was very satisfactory. The disadvantage was that the keep, which had a worsted pad, was to a certain extent open and liable to accumulate water. The boxes had in recent years been modified by closing the keep except for felt pads in the centre which wiped the journal, and similar felt pads to horn faces. The trimming feeds were eliminated and substituted by oil filler pipes.
The 18-in. x 30-in. engines with wheels smaller than 6 ft. had the cylinder centre 2½ inches above the driving wheel centre. Churchward adopted this in order to raise the maximum Wld~h over cylinders and to avoid inclined cylinders. It was not considered that this adversely affected the riding qualities of. the engines. The early 6 ft. 8½ in. engines had the cylinder centre 2½ rnches above the wheel centre, but all these engines now have them on the axle centre line.

Meeting in Derby 13 April 1950: M.A. Henstock (194-5) noted that Churchward had decided that double admission valves were inefficient and opted for large diameter piston valves.and was surprised that Cook had stressed valve travel rather than lead (which Henstock considered to be a very important factor in smooth running:  Replying Cook stated that the reference to lead and valve travel must be taken relatively and to emphasise the importance which Churchward placed upon long valve travel. It should also be borne in mind that Walschaert and Stephenson valve gears have different lead characteristics) but both can be developed to give excellent results. The leads as quoted in the Paper remain the same to-day on the Churchward engines. On the Castles the lead has been increased from the 1/8 in of the Stars to 3/16 in. Henstock also queried the function of top feed trays and was informed. by Cook that they may have made a greater contribution to the condition of feed water than was really planned. Certainly around about 1939, admitting that shed boiler maintenance was at its best, really excellent boiler life was being obtained on the Great Western Railway, such that the chemists would say could only be obtained from fully softened water, but softening was not universal. Main line passenger engines were in many cases running three hundred thousand and four hundred thousand miles between boiler lifts.

E.A. Langridge (196-7) noted how Churchward had introduced high boiler pressures (225 lb) and stuck with them unlike other locomotive engineers: he considered that was indicative of excellent workshop practice and the ability to maintain firebox stays and tubes. He queried the cylinder layout of the four-cylinder locomotives: on other railways this layout had been tried but dropped due to the loosening of the cylinders. In reply the Author said one had to decide in a 4-cylinder design whether to set cylinders in transverse line or staggered as in the Churchward arrangement. There were pros and cons; Churchward chose that arrangement very largely, he thought, to keep the connecting..rods the same length and to distribute the weight. It did give rise to breathing moments and there was some difficulty in keeping the exhaust joints tight. There was some trouble with cylinder bolts at that point.
The regulator opening curve was obtained as shown on the diagram provided that free movement of the valves were maintained and for this purpose one feed from the sight feed lubricator led to the regulator valve. The difference in valve opening on the forward and return movements of the regulator handle was, of course, part of the design and the Experimental Section, when recording regulator openings during tests had to be careful to note whether the regulator was moving on the forward or return stroke. Regarding the Deeley gear, he thought the. North Star was first. Deeley published the gear shortly afterwards. There was correspondence between Swindon and Derby, with the result that acknowledgment was made that Swindon was entitled to use the gear.

G.R. Mahy (198) asked why Churchward built both two and four cylinder versions of otherwise identical designs and whether the valve events were established by experiment and was informed that multi-cylinder designs were appropriate for high speed trains and that valve gear was designed by Hawksworth in the drawing office.

York Meeting: 19 April 1950: chaired by J.N. Compton who made some searching comments, notably on p. 203: in developing the King class, the very high tractive effort seemed to have been achieved by reducing the wheel diameter and increasing the stroke, and asked why it was necessary to go to 40,000 lbf tractive effort on what was a high speed passenger locomotive. Cook replied that the power was needed for the exacting services to Wolverhampton and over the severe South Devon banks. Compton then criticised the short stumpy boilers (a result of Churchward's seeking the maximum degree of standardization in throat plates, etc.) which must have led to difficulties on tubing because the shortness of barrels in proportion to gas area must affect the A/S ratio or hydraulic effect. One must have an enormous number of tubes, and that would lead to too much gas area. Cook avoided the specific question and implied that Churchward was seeking the free circulation of water. Compton's observations on the combining valve received a crisp response: The lubricator combining valve was controlled by the operation of the regulator handle. On opening the regulator, the combining valve was lifted which started the flow of oil and it was cut off again by the closing of the regulator without. interfering with the adjusting needles. The second steam supply from the manifold to the combining valve was for the purpose of completing atomization. Lastly he mildly attacked the sacred cow of the brake valve: it was rather similar to other types of combmed steam and vacuum, but embodied only a large ejector. This caused him to think that the Western type ejector must be rather heavy on steam when the locomotive was stationary. The vacuum pump, of course, replaced the small ejector when running. Cook agreed that when the engine was stationary and the vacuum pump was not operating, the large ejector was brought into operation to release the brakes. This is, however, required for relatively short periods. The economy by this system was extremely marked in 1922 when trials were carried out by a Committee on Unification of Brakes.

Carpenter (presumably G.W. pp. 202-3) refered to the De Glehn compounds, and asked whether, in view of the widely accepted idea that it was not possible to accommodate large low-pressure cylinders between the frames of British locomotives without undesirable reductions in axlebox bearing surfaces, any heating trouble had been experienced with the French engines, the last two of which had 235/8in. diameter low-pressure cylinders. He also wondered whether the valve design of the French compounds, which had slide valves, was less efficient than that of the Churchward 4-6-0s, which had long travel piston valves, as the thermal efficiency of the compounds was theoretically higher. Cook replied that he did not consider that there had been any particular heating problems with the French compounds as the pressure was limited in the low pressure cylinders. The engines ran well and were efficient, but did not give a free exhaust when worked heavily. Nevertheless, a drawbar pull of 2 tons was obtained at 70 mile/h.. Carpenter recalled that the efficiency of the similar Nord 4-4-2 compounds was greatly increased in later years when the front end was re-designed and a. multiple jet blast pipe fitted and queried whether further investigations into compounding had been made at Swindon following the Marechal trials between otherwise similar, compound and simple locomotives in 1912 on the PLM Railway. This part failed to illicit a response. Carpenter also asked whether it was originally intended to fit the 47xx class No.7 boiler to the "Castle" class engines, as this had had the same length between tubeplates and a larger diameter? It had occurred to him that the increased weight of the No.7 boiler as compared with that actually fitted to the " Castle" class engines, and consequently increased axle loading, might have been the principal objection to doing this. Cook agreed that this was so.
J.F. Harrison (204) had never understood why it was necessary to have stay bars from the front buffer beams to the smokebox. Also, why was it that Churchward, who gave so much thought to matters of locomotive design, did not pursue superheating to its logical conclusion? It seemed to him that he failed to take advantage of what other designers were making the best use of and possibly he would have produced even better engines than the "Castle" engines had he furthered superheating. The third point was—why only one water gauge? He thought it was wrong. Also, many Western Region engines had under the boiler at the front end, some sort of plate support which might not actually carry the boiler, and he would like to know what that was for. The reply (page 206) noted that smoke box struts were fitted on some classes because the extension frames tended to be liable to deformation by rough usage. It did not apply on the 6 ft. 8½ in. wheels, but on the smaller wheeled engines the depth of extension frames immediately in front of the cylinders was restricted. One water gauge, which was. a unit fitting with test cocks on the pillar, had been found to meet all requirements. The motion plate beneath the boiler did not fit against the barrel plate but was a safeguard to support the front end in case of a breakage of an extension frame. The adoption of a low degree of superheat should be regarded as a "Churchwardism," upon which his views, as mentioned in the paper, were quite definite. He appeared to combine the matters of degree of superheat with boiler pressure. He adopted 225 lb. per sq. inch in 1904, which was much in advance of other designers, and in conjunction with this, wanted sufficient superheat to provide dry steam free of condensation in the cylinders. .

Newcastle Meeting 26 April 1950: R.W. Taylor (208) asked about frame fractures and small tenders. Cook gave a smug reply to the latter: the Churchward locomotives were so efficient that the coal and water consumption was low. Later longer trains and larger locomotives demanded 6 tons of coal and 4000 gallons of water. The frames did not suffer greatly from fractures: the 4-cylinder suffered more frequently, but mainly of a "minor nature" at the leading end. On the 2-cylinder type fractures tended to occur within the portion round the coupled wheels, but could be eased by attention to horn bolt spacing. Birkett asked why steel stays at bottom and copper stays at top of firebox and was informed that steel was cheaper and could be of smaller diameter in circulating area. Free entry of water to waterways was of paramount importance in Churchward's eyes.

Journal No. 215

Lund, G.H.K. (Paper No. 493)
Railway breakdown and rerailing equipment. 226-69. Disc. 269-303. Bibliography. 39 illus.
Presented at Institution of Mechanical Engineers at Fifth Ordinary Meeting of 1949/50 Session on 2 March 1950 with W. Cyril Williams in the chair.
Kelbus ramps, jacks, packing, lighting, breakdown cranes (Cowans Sheldon, Cravens and Ransomes & Rapier), Kelbus rail anchors, cooking, protective clothing, French railways, electric locomotives. Includes specific mention of locomotive derailments which occurred near Maryhill, on West Highland line at Inveruglas and on Skinningrove zig-zag. Discussion: Stanier (pp 270-1) mentioned that as an Assistant Divisional Locomotive Superintendent on the GWR: 12 ton cranes were the highest capacity when he first had to deal with problem. Hydraulic jacks had assisted. In 1910 36 ton capacity cranes became available: a Ransomes & Rapier machine at Swindon and a Stothert & Pitt crane at Old Oak Common. In 1927 when in the USA he had come across the Lidgerwood steam winch. Cited earlier paper by John Baker (Paper 310 of Vol. 23. Illustrations of two cranes retrieving locomotive at Inveruglas on West Highland line and another on retrieving No. 2237 on the Skinningrove zigzag..
Discussion: Rudgard (271-2) described how he had re-railed Kirtley double-frame locomotives with 5 ton cranes. He also advocated issuing the men with beer. A.S. Gillitt (272-3) noted that the 10 ton oil jacks used on the Western Division of the LMR were easier to manipulate than the 20 ton type. There was a shortage of breakdown cranes in the British Zone of Germany. He also made observations on the re-railing of cranes. T.C.B. Miller (279-80) noted how the breakdown gang at Stratford used to live in houses adjacent to the depot and would be called out by bells in these houses. In his response to the discussion Lund (page 281) mentioned the difficulties in re-railing articulated rolling stock and the particular difficulty encountered with the C9 locomotives.

The First Ordinary General Meeting of the North Eastern Centre was held at the G. K. Station Hotel, Leeds, on Thursday 11 October 1951 at 6.45 p.m., the Chair being taken by T. Matthewson-Dick. The Minutes of the Meeting held on the 19 April 1951, were read, approved and signed as correct. The Chairman then introduced Mr. G. H. K. Lund who read his Paper entitled “ Railway Breakdown and Rerailing Equipment see V. 41.

Meeting in Manchester held at the College of Technology on 26 April 1950: J.J. Finlayson in chair
H. Fowler (298) had asked about the arrest of railwaymen and was informed that the French example was also followed in Scotland, perhaps due to the similarity between tne legal systems. He knew for certainty of an Edinburgh driver who, some years ago, was arrested when an accident followed a signal being passed at danger, and he was bailed out. On a more recent occasion, where a driver had ended up on a platform, killing a bookstall attendant, there was talk of arresting him. The District Officer sent him away over the Border into England to his home station and so avoided the arrest, but the police were not at all pleased at the action of the District Officer.
Cameron (298) received a reply: many of the constituent Companies prior to 1923 did have specially built tool vans, but certainly since that date, the conversion of obsolete coaching stock was the usual practice. He had been brought up to believe that all the troubles in the Motive Power Department about the cost of obtaining equipment went back to Sir A. K. Butterworth, of the NER, who had said that the Locomotive Department was a necessary evil. There was much to be said for specialIy built vans and a case could be made out for their additional cost if their draw gear and braking arrangements were such that the crane could be run between them and so save time shunting. The Author thoroughly endorsed Mr. Camerons view regarding the provision of an auxiliary lifting hook. There were very few cranes in this country so fitted, but the large American cranes had as many as three auxiliary hooks. On each occasion on which this Paper had been read, adverse criticism had been made by speakers regarding the weight of equipment. He understood that efforts had been made in the L.M. Region to provide a light jack, but with the material available, without success. The manufacturers of the 35-ton jack weighing only 35 lb. were the Consolidated Pneumatic Tool Company, but they had informed him that these jacks were not manufactured in this country, though negotiations had been going on for some time with their American Company with a view to some arrangement being made.
In reply to Lamb (300), the Author said he had only had experience with the whistle method. He was not aware that the buzzer was used in this country, though it was the practice in France. On American cranes the driver's position was right forward on one side and the man in charge could therefore speak to him with ease. While it was true that various people might be blowing whistles, that was not a common source of trouble, and whistles had the advantage that the men working on the ground knew what and when instructions were being given to the crane driver. No doubt the buzzer had a good deal to recommend it provided there was someone to see that the wander lead did not get caught up.
In reply to Clarke (300), the Author thanked him for his information regarding the 75-ton German Railway crane. The Author remembered some years ago Mr. Oakes, D.L.S.,. Doncaster, telling him, that when he went to take delivery of the first LNER. 45-.ton crane, he was sent by mistake the drawings for a 120-ton crane m which he found references to power house arrangements, and it appeared that. all the blocking and movement of the beams was done by hydraulic rams controlled by the crane driver. Specifications were believed to. have been got out for Sir Nigel Gresley, who had m mind the alternative to a number of 45-ton cranes, namely, to have one very large crane stationed at a central point to cover the whole o.f the LNER. The only disadvantage which he saw in the automatic arrangements was, what happened if it broke down? ....
In reply to Bradley (300), the Author said that instructions existed on parts of the former LNER in Scotland that the crane must be next to the engine. He was not aware of any similar instructions existing elsewhere, but it was customary at many places for them to marshal the crane next to the engine. He did not feel particularly comfortable travelling at high speed in an old :iding van situated betw.een the engine and the crane. At the same time, the advantage of being able to marshal the crane between two vans and so avoid shunting was so great that he felt the cost of suitably constructed vans and draw.gear was justified.

Robertson, A.S. (Paper No. 494)
Trends in electric traction. 304-25. Disc.: 325-36.
The thermal balances of steam and electric traction were compared. Noted the satisfactory nature of the control gear used on the Liverpool to Southport rolling stock. Included AC electrification; the mercury arc rectifier and the Weir Report. Discussion: Hull (328) queried the effect of third rail electrification on ATC. Marshall (332) queried the effect of nose-suspended motors on tyre wear and stated that the heat loss through cylinders was 5.8%

Journal No. 216

Thompson, W.T. (Paper No. 495)
Rolling bearings – their contribution to modern rolling stock design. 343-80. Disc.: 381-424.
Paper read at Institution of Mechanical Engineers on 18 January 1950; chaired by W. Cyril Williams, President. Author employed Railway Technical Division, Skefko Ball Bearing Co., Luton. The following abstract appeared in Loco. Rly Carr. Wagon Rev., 1950, 56, 65-7..
It was estimated that the number of such bearings in use on railways in all parts of the world must have been well over one-and-a-half million; in view of the very large contribution made by these bearings to design, and their great advantages from the operating aspect.The author commenced by summarising the most popular types applied to rolling stock and briefly outlined their suitability for certain conditions. The bearings generally employed were:-
1. Single row deep groove ball.
2. Cylindrical roller.
3. Double row rigid ball.
4. Taper roller.
5. Self-aligning ball.
6. Spherical roller.
7. Needle roller.
Dealing with applications to the axles of steam locomotives the opinion was expressed that bearings should be selected which will outlast the wheel and axle sets, especially when the bearings are direct mounted and have a heavy interference fit. The initial outlay on roller bearings will only be justified in terms of long life, which may vary between 500,000 and 2,000,000 miles depending on the class of locomotive; and for express locomotives reaching 120,000 or more miles per annum it is desirable to calculate bearing sizes for a mileage of 2,000,000 at least.
Freedom from hot boxes is a: major consideration in favour of the roller bearing particularly under high speed conditions. Mileages in the region of 60,000 to 70,000 per annum would appear general for British Railways main line locomotives. The introduction of roller bearings, together with other factors contribute towards increased availability. These other factors include the provision of liners of wear resisting alloy steels on the boxes and guides, which will ensure the slackness of bearing and guides remaining fairly constant, giving increased mileages between adjustments of the axlebox guides. The lateral play also remains constant not being dependent on the rubbing faces of wheel boss and axlebox, thus controlled play in the hornways, plus the 360 degrees support given to the axle by the roller bearing will reduce pounding effects on the coupled axles to a minimum, a very important contributory factor to greater efficiency and improved wear and tear of the mechanical parts. The latest high-speed Pacifies on the London Midland Region (British Railways), i.e. Sir Wm. Stanier, F.R.S. and City of Salford, had reached mileages of 118,000 and 106,000 (November 1949) and had not yet been shopped for major overhaul. These mileages were already well in excess of usual permissible mileages between shoppings, and although there are conditioning factors of tyre wear, cylinder valve liners and boiler maintenance to take into account, the roller bearings will, it is hoped, play a. valuable part in increasing the earning capacity of the locomotives by reason of the increased mileage gained between major shoppings. These locomotives are completely roller borne, both spherical and taper roller bearings being used. The leading inside crank axle of these four-cylinder locomotives presented a special problem owing to the limited length of 10 in. available for the axlebox.
Thirty-five 4-6-2 locomotives with bogie tenders, built by the North British Locomotive Co. Ltd. for the Western Australian Government Railways were equipped with spherical roller bearings on all carrying axles and in addition sixteen have coupled axles equipped with a similar box to that used on Sir William Stanier, F.R.S but arranged for top spring loading. The trailing truck, which carried 11 tons, had a feature of special interest (Fig. 1). The radial Cartazzi type boxes were replaced by an auxiliary frame with central lateral control springs, and a self-aligning box is located in the hornway gaps of the rigid frame structure. The radial guides form an integral part of the auxiliary frame which is designed to give a lateral play of 1¼ in. each way, with flat sliding surfaces between the spring and the top of the truck frame. @@@
The New Zealand Government Railways had used roller bearings extensively on locomotives for many years. Their 4-8-2 TA class engines were completely equipped with spherical roller bearings on all locomotive and tender axles. The coupled boxes were of the cannon type. Forty of these engines were built by the North British Locomotive Co. Ltd. and a further thirty-five in New Zealand. Half of the latter are equipped with taper roller bearings throqghout. Of special interest is the decision of the New Zealand Government Railways to tryout roller bearings on the side rods of this class of locomotive. All pins are roller equipped on the trial locomotives, with the exception of the intermediate pins, which have plain floating bushes and serve to stabilise the rod assembly. Extra play can be allowed in the floating bushes. Many special purpose locomotives for heavy marshalling work have been successfully equipped in this way on all side rod positions, and have given full satisfaction, making decided improvements in the wear and tear of mechanical parts by reason of the absence of wear on the pins. For main line locomo- tives a number of successful installations have been carried out on the main driving pins only (i.e. con- necting rod big-ends and coupling rods). The relative differences in the float of the respective axles - ~ill produce a very slight mis-alignment of the rods, but with spherical roller bearings these movements take place with perfect ease and no wear. There has been some hesitation in applying roller bearings to all the pins on main line locomotives owing to the reduction of play between the rod centres. When plain bearing boxes are used with tapered adjustable wedges there is a very great danger of pro-loading the roller bearings on the side rods and of seizures resulting. Furthermore, especially with locomotives without trailing trucks, the close proximity of the fire box to the rear coupled axle can lead to unequal expansion of the frames and rods, which again could induce a heavy pre-load on the trailing side rod bearings. The solutions to these problems were outlined and included stabilising the rods by the provision of side check liners of manganese steel - see Figure 2.
Particulars were given of many locomotives now on order which are to be equipped with spherical roller bearings. These include ten class 5 4-6-0 locomotives to be built at Horwich for the L.M.R. and fitted with these bearings on all engine and tender axles. A further ten will be equipped with such bearings on the driving axles only.
Ease in starting especially eo mm ends the roller bearing for diesel mechanical locomotives and rail cars, and in particular for shunting work. The mountings on inside journals can follow the principle of steam locomotives, although there is no need for the same elaborate protection of the bearings against water and also dust from ashpans. Spherical roller bearings for jackshafts are now commonly employed and as the jackshaft boxes are usually fixed as separate units to the frame plates the ability of the bearings to give initial alignment is an important feature.
The A.E.C. rail cars of the Western Region are completely roller borne. Twenty of these cars are now being built for the Great Northern Railway of Ireland, by the Associated Equipment Co. Ltd. In electric motor coaches and diesel electric, electric and gas turbine locomotives the axle bearings are usually applied to outside journals and the boxes are direct or sleeve mounted. On the equalising type of bogie used on the Dutch State Railways on electric and diesel electric stock the self-aligning box is used. With this box construction the side-spring beam is suspended below the bearings, effecting a controlled pendulum suspension and improved riding qualities. On electric stock with one conductor rail only or with overhead wires, the earth return from the traction circuit is via the axles and wheels to rail. In the normal course of events the current passes through the axlebox bearings. An alternative path is provided on the driven axles by the axle-suspension bearings. Experience throughout the world has shown that no serious troubles arise due to current flowing through the spherical roller bearings in the axleboxes as long as the axle-suspension is carried out with plain bearings. The reason is, of course, that the bulk of the current passes through these plain bearings as they offer the path of lesser resistance. The problem of electrical leakage through the roller bearings does, however, require special con- sideration when the circuit is not bridged by plain bearings, i.e. in the cases where roller bearings are used for the axle-suspension. Similar conditions arise when the motor is carried on the frame and roller bearings are used in the quill-drive. As a rough guide it may be stated that any protection device should prevent potential differences between inner and outer rings exceeding 0.5 volts.
An interesting design, patented by Als-Thom, of Paris, and used on fifty Bo-Bo diesel-electric locomotives for the Tunisian Railways is shown in Figure 3. Guidance of the box is by links centred in silentblocs and pivoted to the frame and axlebox at diagonal locations. These links permit vertical move- ments due to the deflections of the underslung springs, and twisting moments are induced radially which are ressted by the resilience of the silentblocs, The box itself is a stable contruction with twin bearings mounted on withdrawal sleeves.
Reference was made to the wide application of roller bearings on carriages and wagons - the demand for bearings for the latter has been very great of late years. An axlebox design described has bearing sizes selected to give a life of not less than 500,000 miles and the average life expectation will be five times that figure. One filling of grease will suffice for periods of 18 to 24 months.
The paper concluded with a reference to the subject of standardisation. Energetic endeavours have been made in this direction by the Union Internationale des Chemins de fer and the author expressed the opinion that it seemed advisable to standardise on metric dimensions where possible, in view of the greater world demand for metric sizes and taking into account the large potential export business of British manufacturers.
Self-aligning ball bearings were first applied by Gresley to return cranks of Walschaerts link motion on GNR locomotives in 1916. Cited paper No. 317 by P.A. Hyde and report by E.L. Diamond.Lomotives for iron and steel works, Iron & Steel Institute, March 1947 wherein shows advantage of roller bearings on ingot cars. Discussion: G. Hally (p. 385) noted that Metropolitan Railway had fitted some trains with roller bearings, once fitted "one could forget about them. J.J. Johnston (p. 387): Drumm battery electric railcar introduced in 1929 had been a success: it had a 21 ton axle load and could attain 55 mph. In 1939 the three Irish Queen class locomotives were fitted and had a 21 ton axle load. K.R.M. Cameron (p. 398) noted that a Royal Scot tender equipped with rolling bearings could be pushed by two foremen in the erecting shop.

Gammon, C.A. (Paper No. 496)
Standardisation and design of goods and mineral wagons as applied to British Railways. 425-65. Disc.: 466-85; 695-709.
Presented at Institution of Mechanical Engineers on 19 April 1950: W. Cyril Willams in Chair. Included an assessment of cast iron versus cast steel for axleboxes; axleguards; bearing springs,; drawgear (rubber springs: steel and rubber versus all rubber); Buffers, brakes. Discussion by E.S. Cox (466-7) noted that Pugson regretted that he could not be present (the absence of Pugson makes Riddles choice of his rolling stock "expert" even more bizarre). Stanier (467-8): When he was on the Great Western Railway, the late Churchward built a 40 ton bogie coal wagon, but he found that the tare of the 40 ton-wagon was greater than the tare of two 20-ton wagons, and it was very restricted in the places it could serve, and so naturally he built 20-ton wagons. On the Cornish Riviera Limited they had measured the quantity of oil placed into the axleboxes, and the sealed boxes were run for eleven months - care was taken to examine the boxes adjacent to the engine to ensure that water had not breached the dust shields. Queried the change to oil-hardened plates from water-hardened: danger of mixing the two. T. Hornbuckle (471-2) that Clayton, Carriage & Wagon Superintendent of the MR had constructed 80,000 wagons to one design at a cost of £65 per wagon. These 8 ton wagons were mass produced at Derby Works. B.C. Bean (702-3) commented on the advantages of bogie stock (and observed that it was better suited to the freight then being carried by road) and on rubber drawbar and buffer springs and their use avoids damage to the headstocks. Discussion Glasgow Meeting 13 December 1950: F.J. Pepper (703) noted the value of rubber springs and the author in his response (p. 708) noted that rubber springs lasted for at least ten and possible fifteen years. See also Simpson: Specially constructed railway wagons (Volume 44 Paper 533)..

Carling, D.R. (Paper No. 497)
Locomotive testing on British Railways. 496-530. Discussion 530-91.
Presented at Institution of Mechanical Engineers on 20 September 1950: R.A. Riddles, President, in Chair. This was a beautifully written paper and surveyed all the testing equipment available at the time: the GWR dynamometer car; the Swindon locomotive testing plant; the ex-North Eastern Railway dynamometer car, and the counter pressure locomotive; the ex-Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway dynamometer car; the LMS gas analysis car (described by P.Lewis-Dale, Institute of Fuel 1936) and the two self-weighing tenders. the "new" LNER dynamometer car fitted with Amsler hydraulic equipment, the "new" LMS dynamometer car and its associated mobile testing unit and special tender. Obviously, the Rugby testing station is also described. On page 521 and Figures 26 and 27 there are details of the famous comparitive tests between a 2301 Dean Goods 0-6-0 with an unmodidied LMS Ivatt class 2 2-6-0. Discussion: Bond (531-3) made reference to Rugby testing station. T. Henry Turner (535-6) noted that Ivatt had read a paper at Doncaster in 1897on the chimneys of locomotive engines in which he had examined chimneys from twenty companies; Cox (536-7) the LMS had borrowed the LNER dynamometer car to calibrate the Crewe and Horwich cars and had noted the accuracy of the LNER dynamometer car, he also observed that the class 5 and 5X "had considerable variety of boiler proportions". A Reidinger (540-3) refered to D49/2 and class 5 45218 (the later being equipped with special piston valves which gave five different values of lead. The author's reply stated that in both cases the steaming rates had been increased. Tuplin (555-6) proposed a circular test track with a two mile diameter.
The Derby meeting on 19 October was chaired by E.R. Durnford (572) who refered to the tests of the Ivatt Class 2 and 4 2-6-0s. C.S. Cocks (573-5) mentioned the Testing Committee, he was interested in the tests on the D49 class locomotive with poppet valves, and had some fairly sharp comments about the draughting on the Ivatt 2-6-0s.  the Author (page 577) reported on further trials on the class 2 2-6-0 with the Western Region's dynamometer car, and he had seen a photograph of that little engine attaining the summit of nine miles of 1 in 300 gradient at 40 m.p.h., in 41 per cent. cut-off, with regulator full open and a load of 15 coaches; this was with the existing cylinders but with the revised chimney. Glasgow Meeting on 1 November 1950 chaired by C.D. Hanna: E.D. Trask (585) mentioned the quantity of steam required for steam heating. W.H. MacLeod asked about double blast pipes and on tests with poppet valves on the D49 class. In reply Carling considered that double blast pipes were not required on locomotives of the size of a class 5 and that in the D49 tests something was wrong with the valves or their seats.
K.W. Everett 577) wrote that he understood certain tests had been carried out at Rugby Testing Station in connection with the investigation to determine the dimensions of “ lead ” given to the piston valve driven with the Walschaert gear to give the best results and he asked if the Author would relate his findings on this subject and whether these had been in any way conclusive. It is reasonable to believe that there were occasions when a sacrifice of total power had to be made for improved efficiency of running in a machine and the choice of the most suitable setting for the valve events in a locomotive might be made from the best running conditions for the bearings and the best riding conditions of the engine as a vehicle. The effects of rough riding due to a bad choice of valve events may be considerable on maintenance. They were all aware of the kinetic energy of steam and the power which could be developed in the steam turbine from its use and it was quite evident that in a reciprocating steam engine, when the compression pressure was inadequate, an impact of considerable magnitude could be imparted to the piston at admission from those very same conditions. A way to overcome this effect would be to round off the heel of the indicator diagram with a steeper compression curve by adding exhaust lap to the piston valve, and although this would mean a certain sacrifice of power, a reduction would, no doubt, follow in the maintenance due to less hot big ends, broken cylinders, etc., apart from smoother riding conditions and less wear. .

Journal No. 218

Shields, T.H. (Paper No. 498)
The Giffard centenary: a survey of locomotive injector development. 597-649. Disc.: 649-73.
Presented at Institution of Mechanical Engineers on 25 Ocober 1950: R.A. Riddles (President) in Chair.
Paper Number duplicated in Warder paper on electric traction Vol. 41.
Comprehensive review including patents. Began with showing the boiler feed arrangement (pump) for a Caledonian 2-2-2 of the Crewe type on the Caledonian Railway. Then explored the development of jet instruments via Venturi (1797), Nicholson (patent in 1806), the Marquis Mannoury d'Ectot, Benoulli, Euler and Bourdon with patents in 1848 and 1857. Also pre-dating Giffard's invention Andrew Barclay and his draughtsman Alex Morton were working on jet condensers from 1854. Giffard's patent 1665 dated from 23 July 1858 and an extract from it is reproduced on pp. 601-2. Samples of the injectors were supplied to the Paris representatives of Sharp Stewart and R. Stephenson, but only the former successfully asembled the device (aided by John Robinson) and this was fitted with to a ballast locomotive with the assistance of James Cross
of the St Helens Railway in 1859, and subsequently to a freight locomotive. Robinson and Cross conducted experiments to establish the effects of temperature and vibration. Ramsbottom fitted an injector to a Problem class 2-2-2 in 1860. Sharp Stewart obtained the British rights and continued to manufacture injectors until the firm moved to Glasgow in 1888. The US rights were obtained by William Sellers of Philadelphia: the device was first fitted to a Baldwin locomotive for the Clarksville & Louisville Railroad in 1860 (incidentally the rapid uptake of Giffard's invention should be of interest to those studying technological innovation). In 1864 Andrew Barclay was involved in litigation concerning infringement of the Giffard patent. The first modifications were patented by Gresham & Robinson (2784/1864) and Gresham (3169/1867)..
Discussion: Cox (651-3) noted that tests were performed on injectors by British Railways (but types were not identified in Paper); Holcroft (653-5): In Maunsell's day on the Southern Railway a special point had been made of the simplicity and reliability of injectors and their accessories. The injectors were located behind the foodsteps to the cab where the cones could be got at without having to uncouple pipes to do so. He entirely disagreed with the Author about his views on the best positions of clacks and injectors.

Darlington (666-9)
Glasgow (669-73): The Chairman, C.D. Hanna (669-70) noted the connection between the Robinson family from J. Robinson's 1860 IME paper and the death of C.H. Robinson, a Director of NBL, in 1940; G.W. Phillips (670-1) noted his experience of the exhaust steam injector c1909 with Ivatt Atlantic superheated boilers fitted to Nos. 1452-61.

Riddles, R.A. (Presidential Address)
Nationalisation and the mechanical engineer. 675-94.
Main theme was standardization and some case was made for retaining steam traction. Noted that the Southern Railway and the LNER had Chief Electrical Engineers and that this was not so on GWR and LMS. The table below compares the cost of steam with other forms of motive power.

type cost (£k) starting tractive effort 1 hr DBHP cost per DBHP
Class 5 16 26120 1200 £13+
1600 hp CC type diesel electric 78 41400 1200 65
2500 hp A1A gas turbine 138 33000 2000 69
CC electric for Woodhead 37 45000 2120 17

Noted that standard coaching stock was all-steel, exploited welding, had Buckeye couplers and Pullman gangways which held the train together in the event of accidents. Resistance to end-loading was doubled. Largely evaded the wagon problem except to note the vast intake of private owner wagons many of which were in a very poor stock and had to be scrapped..